Viscera

[6.0] "In my opinion, one of the most underrated Big Men in WWE history, Big Daddy V's character had much more to offer, Such a terrifying and imposing appearance, yet surprisingly agile for someone of his size, R.I.P. to Nelson."

[6.0] "Could move relatively quickly for his immense size. One way or another, he always got the crowd's attention and always got reactions. His drops and splashes really looked as though they were life-threatening. He did his job and was a satisfactory roster addition."

[5.0] "Vis is one of the all-time Dudes Rock wrestlers to me. was his run as King Mabel objectively one of the worst main-event pushes in history? oh yeah. did he ever have a great match? don't think so. was he good on the mic? not particularly. but answer me this: did he have an entrance theme titled "Fuck Me"? yep. did he dry-hump dudes' asses as a finisher? oh yeah. was he poppin' viggies like no tomorrow? you'd better believe it. all joking aside, I can't help but crack a smile whenever I think about Viscera; rest in peace, big man."

[8.0] "Whether he was the world's largest love machine, viscera, the imposing and dangerous (and terrifying) Big Daddy V, or if he was the King of the World Wrestling Federation, Mabel, this guy was a superstar and someone who could both go in the ring (admittedly at times, at a limited capacity) and keep the audience 100% completely captivated. Rest in Peace big lad, and thank you for all the memories in youth"

[2.0] "He had an entertaining run as part of Men on a Mission but he couldn't wrestle. He couldn't do it as Mabel, King Mabel or Viscera. He couldn't cut a promo either."

[4.0] "Viscera had a unique look and impressive size, but he was never more than a lower-card attraction. His work as Mabel in Men on a Mission and later as King Mabel was clunky and often unsafe, contributing to a reputation as a liability in the ring. Later reinventions, like the World's Largest Love Machine, leaned more on comedy than credibility. While he had longevity and filled various roles, his matches were usually slow and forgettable. Viscera was serviceable as a spectacle, but far from essential to any era of wrestling."

[7.0] "It'd be disingenuous for me to claim I don't get why is rating was so low. He was much more athletic than his size warranted as Mabel, but the gimmick was trash. And while Viscera and Big Daddy V were both pretty awesome, his skill level had gone down quite a bit by then. So if you sort of look at his career, there's very little worth watching (Though he had some stuff in Japan that is definitely A-Tier after leaving WWE). But, I'm choosing to be generous, and saying that if he had been able to pull out his better character work at the same time as his better wrestling, he'd had what it took to be a top star. After coming back as Viscera in the 2000s, he was an extremely safe wrestler, having learned from his mistakes. Capable of pulling out enzuigiris, rolling neck snaps, somersault sentons, and spinning wheel kicks, he was doing stuff beyond what his weight should have allowed. His storytelling was okay. I think because of the awful booking, character work, and comparison, his stuff with Yokozuna and Diesel gets treated as "Worst of the worst, " and while not good, you can see genuine storytelling in there at times. I think there was something there, and had the stars aligned, he would've been someone we keep in the same sentence as Yokozuna or Andre, considering he was definitely more athletic than either of them. The one hill I will die on is that some of his promos as Viscera and Big Daddy V were metal as hell, just awesome stuff."

[4.0] "viscera had a strong menacing monster presence, particularly with the ministry of darkness. a memorable lower-mid carder, who although was never a good wrestler technically, was often entertaining."

[5.0] "Incredible look, and he grew into a serviceable big man by the end of his career, but he was always gonna top out at the midcard/tag team level. Solid guy to have around, but he pretty much hit his ceiling early. The main event run in 95 was a serious mistake."

[7.0] "No, no, no, no, Big Vis is a too nice of a man to have such a low rating. He was horribly green in his early run, but everybody said he improved A LOT in the 2000's. Come on, he could jump off the top rope, do a spinning heel kick, was a lot safer later. I had respect for him even before he passed away. 43 years old. Way too young. Anyway, go and check out some of his best moves around the web, you'll learn how much his later years were so long forgotten. Not as Big Daddy V tho, as he was almost immovable then."

[6.0] "If it hadn't been for his awful runs as King Mabel or Big Daddy V it'd be higher. He was agile for a near-500 pounder and was by all means a great monster heel with the ministry, and despite his silliness, the world's largest love machine was over and was the only thing on Sunday Night heat that would get the crowd going."

[6.0] "...Viscera is such an odd case when it comes to professional wrestling that I don't know whether or not I'm rating him too high or rating him too low. His work as Mabel in the mid-90s was atrocious, easily some of the worst in-ring work in the entire New Generation. However, by the time he returned to the WWF in early 1999 (not counting his one-off bout against Ken Shamrock in June of 1998), and especially once you get into the early-to-mid 2000s, he'd gotten better overall, and was at least a functioning monster that had an air of intimidation that wasn't easy to ignore."

[2.0] "Who doesn't love a big fat ball of diabetes who has a 27% of injuring his opponent in every match he has."

[0.0] "Probably the WOAT; Worst Of All Time Bad in-ring (seems obivous , but wenn you see guys like bambam or ivar doing crazy stuff , his size is not an excuse) Bad character , not even success to look a bit impressing (witch his MANDATORY for big guy) and his pomo where bassic with no flavor or trash Not even funny , ths guy has nothing for him"

"Viscera, with his massive size and menacing presence, carved out a niche as a solid mid-card monster in wrestling. While he wasnt in the top echelon, his distinctive look and the aura he brought to the ring made him unforgettable. He played his role well, effectively using his size to intimidate and engage the audience. Although his in-ring skills were average, he consistently delivered performances that were entertaining and contributed significantly to the shows he was part of. A fair 5/10 for his memorable role."

[6.0] "Really good look. He was built like a tank, and was a legit 6'7 to top it off. Never was an particularly outstanding in-ring performer, although I'd say he was an improvement from some of the other "big fat guy" type wrestlers that came before him. He also never had much of a diverse move-set, but some of the things he was able to do, he did well, especially his samoan drop and big splash, which both looked devastating as hell. Obviously shouldn't have been near the main event scene (especially early in his career, when he was extremely green and prone to causing injuries), but as a Brute/Giant Mook character for the faces to take down? I'd say he did his job plenty well."

[8.0] "I don't get all the low ratings. Yes he wasn't a big name in the business like The Rock or John Cena but nonetheless, he was entertaining and could move very well for a big man. My favorite gimmicks of his were the Ministry Of Darkness Viscera and Big Daddy V. The love machine gimmick was ok but bizarre, Men on a mission Mabel was actually pretty good, King Mabel was mediocre in my opinion. Im aware some wrestlers have accused him of being an unsafe worker but he definitely improved later in his career."

[3.0] "During his first run as Mabel he was unsafe in the ring and not very good. Viscera was a step in the right direction as he got safer in the ring and put on better matches for a while. Even then he was still not great but was a solid hand mid card type. Eventually age caught up with him and his mobility decreased. Overall he never was a great wrestler but could play a good gimmick and improved between the first and second runs."

[5.0] "I was always super entertained by Viscera due to his size, and also because he looked intimidating. I feel like he could've done more when he came back in 2004, and feel like he was hitting his stride as Big Daddy V. I was not a fan of the Mabel character as much in the 90s, but feel like he fit in well during his Ministry of Darkness stint in '99."

[1.0] "A terrible wrestler highlighting a terrible time in the history of the WWF/WWE the decision to make him King of The Ring was simply ludicrous. A one minute Mable/Viscera match would feel like a one hour match due to his atrocious style and work"

[5.0] "Viscera, Mabel, Big Daddy V, a man with many gimmicks but was always just alright in my eyes. The best aspect of Viscera was the fact that he had the look of a true gigantic monster. Of course limited in the ring, in order for him to be in any match that is decent or better, it usually are matches where there is a lot of people and that's where his gimmick makes most sense as he can do a lot of damage. It was interesting to see how his gimmick changing to the World's Largest Love Machine was sort of like a Sexual Chocolate 2.0."

[4.0] "Nelson Frazier Jr. was a man of many names. Over his two decade long wrestling career he went by Nelson Knight, Mabel, King Mabel, Viscera, Big Daddy V, Big Daddy Voodoo and so on. To say his career was smooth sailing would be like saying he is a lean man. Frazier debuted in WWF in 1993 at the age of 22 with his tag partner Bobby Knight but rechristened as Mabel and Mo who, along with their rapping manager Oscar, were Men on a Mission. Bouncing to the ring in gaudy multi color bodysuits, MOM were on a mission to spread positivity with the art form of rap. It is clear the gimmick was meant to capitalize on the popularity of east coast rap in the early 90s while maintaining a kid friendly image for fans. Men on a Mission would be a decent enough mid card tag team who got the crowds energized enough, and even briefly became tag team champions. The more experienced Mo would compete most of the match which was able to cover Mabel's inexperience and manage his stamina. Unfortunately problems would soon arise over Mabel being unsafe and his inability to avoid recognize the damage he could do at his size of 6'9" and tipping 500 lb. Despite this Vince McMahon apparently saw something in the big man and would push him to his career peak. 1994 proved to be a media nightmare for the WWF having been brought to court against the US government for illegal distribution of steroids. The WWF had become a giant over the 1980s and 1990s, but McMahon having to testify in court severely hurt the WWF's image and by extension the wrestling business all together. With that, top stars like Hulk Hogan, Macho Man and Ultimate Warrior became notably deflated in the coming months. Their reputations among fans would also be tarnished due to the steroid trial, and couple with their ages and egos, McMahon sought to push young blood and preferably guys who didn't look like muscle monsters. The "New Generation" era saw McMahon experiment with smaller, more technical guys like Bret "Hitman" Hart as the face of the WWF. Despite this, McMahon still clearly held a preference for bigger guys and eventually decided to put the belt on the 6'10" Diesel who had gotten over with crowds over the past year. As Diesel struck down formidable foes like former champion Hart, former friend Michaels, and various monsters like Bigelow and Sid, Diesel needed another monster who could realistically push him to his limits. McMahon thought Mabel was the man based purely on his girth. In March of 1995, Mabel and Mo turned on Oscar and became heel, marking Mabel's push despite being unsafe as a single's competitor. Even with these red flags, McMahon was dead set on giving Mabel the opportunity of a lifetime. Later that year at the King of the Ring PPV, Mabel was a contestant in the tournament. Mabel had swiftly dealt with Adam Bomb in the qualifiers before the PPV where his first opponent was the Undertaker whom he surprisingly defeated in an absolute snore fest. Because Kama vs Michaels ended in a no contest, Mabel got a BYE before reaching the finals to face... Savio Vega. Mabel made quick work of Vega and was declared by Mo as the new King of the Ring to a chorus of boos in Philadelphia. Philly was considered the home of the budding ECW promotion, and this obese man in a purple circus tent was a perfect representation of how out of date the WWF product was in 1995. Know King Mabel, he would be carried to the ring on a thrown by four poor saps flanked by the knighted Sir Mo. Mabel and Mo then set their sights on Big Daddy Cool for the WWF world title. This feud would lead to the main event of Summerslam in a complete disaster of a match. Diesel clearly could not do much with an immobile behemoth and the match was a blur of work punches and kicks. The most memorable part of this match was again, Mabel not knowing his own strength and nearly breaking Diesel's back by dropping all 500 lbs on Diesel. After a pointless ref bump, interference by Mo and a bizarre run in from Luger, the match mercifully ended with Diesel hitting a second rope lariat to put the big man down. The aforementioned drop took Diesel off the House Show circuit and enraged McMahon who wanted to fire Mabel that night, but at the request of Diesel didn't. McMahon gave Mabel another shot this time at the Undertaker but again his careless lead to him breaking his orbital bone off an errant leg drop and by then, McMahon was done with Mabel. He would swiftly bury Mabel by having Diesel defeat him at the Raw Bowl in just 20 seconds before he was fired from the company. To Frazier's credit, he did work on his skills and became safe enough to return in the late 90s. He returned as Mabel at the Royal Rumble, but would be kidnapped by the Undertaker and turned into an acolyte now called Viscera, sporting a blonde mohawk, white eyes and black leather. His Viscera run wasn't anything special beyond standing ominously behind the Undertaker in the disappointing Ministry of Darkness angle and outside of a brief hardcore title reign, didn't do much. He'd again be released, but brought back later but now as a comedic ladies' man gimmick. After that ran its course, he'd be drafted to ECW and would be repackaged again as Big Daddy V, the colossal enforcer of Matt Striker bringing him back to being a monster again. Big Daddy would have mostly squash matches and occasionally challenged for the ECW title, as well as feuded with Kane and Taker but again nothing of note. After 2009 he would be released and continue to wrestle until he died at the age of 43. Frazier clearly had a rough start to his career being too careless for a man his size. With that said, he did improve his abilities and was never called unsafe after he returned as Viscera. He really should have never been pushed as a main eventer, especially when he was 24 and green as grass. His Big Daddy V run was probably his best gimmick though. Overall just an average big man who was overpushed. RIP to Nelson"

[8.0] "Really good presence. His spinning wheelkick and senton were so cool. He was also having the ability to look like a challenge to he westled but, also vulnerable. The Big Daddy V theme song and look is all time iconic. I really liked his matches with as Viscera vs Kurt Angle, as Big Daddy V vs. Colin Delaney, and Big Daddy Voodoo with Bambi Killer vs. Ryota Hama and. Akebono in All Japan. Even later he had fun match vs Blue Demon Jr He's also fun to play in wrestling video games too, I remember enjoying him in SmackDown 2. The Men on A Mission raps were fun too."

[5.0] "For his size and physical shape he wasn't too bad. As Viscera had his funny segments as The World's Largest Love Machine, in his time in The Ministry of Darkness he looked intimidating and as Big Daddy V, although it was a pretty bad run, his gimmick and his entrance theme had the were cool. I don't know much about his run in Japan, aside he was a member of the Voodoo Murders."

[2.0] "Never liked seeing him on my TV. He was slow, boring and had dumb gimmicks. For a big guy, he wasn't particularly hard hitting."

[4.0] "For a big fat guy, he was way ahead of some of the circus side show acts from the previous few years. Dude could actually move around pretty well but he was pretty sloppy in the ring and hurt a couple guys like The Undertaker at one point."

[2.0] "He definitely had periods where he was not awful, but so often that was not the case. Either his ringwork was poor, or he was saddled with a gimmick and/or push that emphasized his weakest points as a wrestler. He had a good look but overall I cannot reconcile the fact that he was involved in some of the worst matches I have ever seen. Congrats to him for having some longevity at WWF/E at least."

[4.0] "I would say Mabel was adequate I enjoyed him in Men on a Mission, and yeah during his King Mabel run he did injure some top stars which was bad. But he ended up having a fairly long career after that and I think his size and look was fairly impressive. I dunno maybe he deserves closer to a 2 or 3 but I think his early work in MoM and his career longevity at his weight is probably worth a 4 but that's just me."

[2.0] "Outside of a cool spinning heel kick, Viscera was extremely limited in the ring, though he showed surprisingly decent mic skills with the love machine gimmick."

[4.0] "Viscera was far from the most accurate wrestler, often his matches were just terrible, and his attempt to push in 1995 was a failure. But at the same time he was quite impressive. Mabel was not very good, but as a member of the Ministry and in gimmick of Big Daddy V, he was good enough and these gimmicks suited him very well. I can't say that he was completely bad, at certain points in his career it was really interesting to watch him."

[7.0] "I've been watching some Viscera matches lately and I gotta say they are always entertaining. For a dude his size he could really move. His matches against Mark Henry are especially entertaing, those guys beat the crap out of each other. Big Vis hitting that rolling kick out of nowhere is always a crazy sight. His Samoan drop, splash in the corner and belly to belly suplexes always look like they're gonna break the ring in half."

[7.0] "I really like Viscera and feel he is unfairly maligned. He was obviously unsafe in his early career but I think he improved quite a lot and was having some pretty solid matches by the time he was Big Daddy V. I felt like his work on ECW was good enough to warrant a bigger push on one of the other brands. He was a convincing monster with a great, unique look."

[5.0] "i like him when he is in ministry of darkness but after that he is dont interest at all, but i like hi again when he is big daddy v"

[4.0] "Really interesting career. As King Mabel, he was really, really bad. However, as the transition to Viscera, he was actually not that bad? However as The World's Largest Love Machine, and eventually Big Daddy V, his work became worse as he battled health issues."

"Big vis is extremely underrated. I don't understand how he gets this much hate. He was only an unsafe worker for a few years when he was young. He learned from is mistakes eventually and became a great wrestler. Viscera was very agile for a 500 pound man. Viscera played his role as a big man really well. Just wanted to give him the credit he deserves. RIP Viscera."

[5.0] "King Mabel was great, not a great worker but a great caracter than he played perfectly. People under estimate him and trash far too much."

[6.0] "I really liked The Harlem Knights, but they also did not have much competition at that point. Men on a Mission was not enjoyable and they were somewhat the poster children for mid 90's, crap ass WWF. NEXT! King Mabel wasn't was bad as people recall, but also did kind of suck (does that make sense? ). The giant wrestling garbage bag with a mohawk on top called Viscera was, an underrated run! That particular "monster heel but enhancement talent" really worked for a minute or two. Mideon tag team though? PASS. The World's Largest Love Machine was a guilty pleasure. But his real stride was as Big Daddy V, everything about this worked for me. After and of all of the repackages THIS was something that was hard to dismiss. Ups and down, with the Big Daddy V run being his peak. 5.5 rounded up."

[6.0] "Yeah, he was massive and therefore not super mobile, but I think he's better than his reputation. King Mabel as a viable main eventer was terrible, but I enjoyed his work as Viscera when he was doing the World's Largest Love Machine gimmick, and also as Big Daddy V. He had a sweet spinning heel kick."

[5.0] "Well OK, he definitely wasn't the best wrestler nor he could talk much, but he managed to make some different gimmicks at least believable. A fun and nice presence, even though him being promoted as a top monster didn't help much."

[5.0] "He was never good in ring, nor was he great on the mic, but he never needed to be, and he was menacing, believable and entertaining, which is the reason WWE kept going back to him. Yes, in his early years he was really unsafe and was overpushed, but he became safer as he got more experienced and was decent in his place as a midcard monster future stars could beat to elevate themselves up the card. His first run as Mabel would get a 1, but overall, he gets a 5."

[7.0] "This man has had four separate careers in 1. First he was Mabel a rapper for the... cause of something, with Mo & Oscar, they were over as babyfaces winning the tag titles only once. And then he turned heel and won the KOTR and became King Mabel an awful main event run which led him to injure both of WWF's biggest babyfaces at the time The Undertaker & Diesel. So after that he got let go and then came back in 1998 to lose to Ken Shamrock and then he came back for the 99 Rumble to do his most memorable gimmick Viscera, who worked perfectly well as a cronie for the Ministry of Darkness and he started to do a spinning wheel kick, cool. Then he... he became a gigantic pervert, literally a** f***ing his opponents, giving Rob Conway the largest wedgie imaginable, and even times cu*king Shelton Benjamin's Mama right on her son at New Years Revolution 2006, and then his crowning hump happened when he layed the pipe to Matt Hardy at the 2006 Royal Rumble, honestly that was freaking hilarious and made me laugh harder than it should've. If Vis went to DDT with the World's Largest Love Machine gimmick you'd all love it. Then he became Big Daddy V with his whole boobs out and couldn't talk, maybe his lust took over his mind and Matt Striker needed to teach him how to communicate to people... anyways yeah that gimmick was pretty cool too. And then he went to All Japan and joined the Voodoo Murders and became Big Daddy Voodoo which is sweet. So yeah whilst he overpushed to his limits, Big Vis endured through size and his willingness to be comical, he did literally everything he was asked to do. As a wrestler he wasn't having 5 Star classics but he could put on an entertaining match if it was under 5 minutes, He was terrible at promos at first and then The World's Largest Love Machine gimmick was the character he always needed, and became smooth on the mic. He's always had good characters (aside from King Mabel) so I think Big Vis is always going to be remembered if you watched WWE from 99-2008, I start paying attention to wrestling until 2003, but when I saw Viscera for the first time with Gangrel helping JBL, He scared the hell out of me, I always enjoyed from a character perspective and not much from an in-ring perspective, I thought his Chokebomb, Big Splash, and Spinning Wheel Kick were real cool, especially that Spinning wheel kick from a near 500 Pounder."

[0.0] "This dude he was fucking awful. he broke Taker? s face and almost broke Diesel? s back he wasn? t a safe worker during his initial push"

[4.0] "Not the best, but certainly not a wrestler I'd expect with a rating like this. Viscera had some entertaining matches for his time, across multiple gimmicks. Decent wrestler."

[6.0] "Completely disagree with the rating here. Sure, Mabel was atrocious to the point of being a liability to others (how he even got earmarked for a main event push is baffling) but he legitimately got a lot better over time, to the point that he was even above average for a big man style wrestler, doing some crazy feats of agility for a guy his size. Voodoo Murders, for instance: a massively overlooked part of his career that had him be a cool monster for AJPW AND even get his hands on the tag belts! This is just one of many gimmick changes that he was able to get over, from the goofy sex-crazed Love Machine era to Ministry of Darkness thug, to Big Daddy V, a cold, almost mechanical monster that ran through the new guard of ECW. He wasn't THIS bad ffs, he could actually work and did so for years and years despite his size and mass. Seemed like a nice guy, huge shame he died so young."

[2.0] "He was kind of fun in some gimmicks and angles, but often wasn't even that. Couldn't work at all, and wasn't even credible as a monster heel."

[5.0] "He was never the best worker but Viscera was always a fun part of WWE undercards and his passing left a giant sized hole that has never been filled since."

[10.0] "It's absolute travesty that this wonderful wrestler has such a low rating. Viscera was always such a delightful and entertaining presence. I will always think of him fondly. Had such a cool look and he could be both menacing and endearing very convincingly throughout all of his career and various iterations of his character"

[5.0] "I'm surprised Mabel/Viscera/Big Daddy V is rated as low as he is. I wouldn't necessarily say he was great, but I think people might only be remembering the bad. His career spanned a long time & his character had numerous alterations. I preferred him as Mabel. I think his King Mabel gimmick was not as bad as most remember it. He was certainly not on Yokozuna's level, but he had moments of impressive agility for an obese guy. I know he legitimately broke Taker's face with an accidental punch, but the kayfabe angle they did to explain it is memorable. I didn't much care for his Viscera days; especially when he was a love machine & courting Lilian. The most memorable thing from his WWECW run as Big Daddy V was the odd suspenders they had him wear."

[9.0] "I have a big soft spot for Viscera, as I first knew him, or Mabel if you prefer. He was an enormous guy and he did have some athletic ability, and he could really make an impact, literally. I honestly enjoy his whole career, minus the awful Love Machine run. I always pop for that spinning heel kick, it shouldn't be possible."

[7.0] "As a kid I despised Viscera for many reasons; some of them shallow. I am surprised to say upon rewatching some Viscera matches, I think that he is rated far too low on this site. Beyond having a great look, this man knew how to work. He was deceptively agile for a man of his size, and seemed more than capable of working with many different kinds of wrestlers. When kept in five minute matches, the World's Largest Love Machine could stay at a swift pace. A Jakked match between him and Funaki, along with a RAW match between him and Umaga many years later both show that he needn't plod his way through these showdowns, despite his mass. He was sloppy as Mable, sure, but he more than came into his own as his career continued as a valuable piece of the midcard. His career spanned multiple generations and characters, and likely would have continued to evolve had he not tragically lost his life so young. I rate high here to lift up an under appreciated big man among big men, and by all accounts, a good man."