Ultimo Guerrero

[8.0] "He's basically like Kevin Nash... if Kevin Nash could have really gone in the ring at any point of his career. At his top he was really really good, but he's a backstage politician of first class. Yeah, plotting backstage is more or less necessary to survive in CMLL but these days, since he cannot really go as well as he could, he seems to engage in it with even more enthusiasm than he used in the past."

[8.0] "This man was/still is a draw in cmll, simple as that. His matches have a neat spectacle atmosphere about them and has a great connection with the arena mexico fans. Only complaint is that he is booked so strong he makes all the young people he beat look weak and the young wrestlers that beat him make it look like they winning was a fluke"

[5.0] "I'll have to preface this one by saying that I've seen only the tail end of his career, but what I have seen has been extremely difficult to watch. This is not a wrestler who seems to have any grasp of ring psychology. There's no flow, there's no momentum. The action is stopped every few minutes so that he can point to the crowd and raise the roof, then allow his opponent to make their own appeals to the crowd. It becomes impossible to watch. The moment you start getting suckered into the action, the match stops to turn into a posedown. I don't watch wrestling to see a shirtless forty-four year old man raise the roof. I understand that this is, to a small extent, just the style some luchadores work. But it's one that makes me beg and plead for the match to just end."