Torneo Cibernetico Match 2025

[8.0] "This was an extremely entertaining match that really did not seem to drag much despite its length, but good lord did they spam the Destroyers. It ended up taking something away from the final product to me."

[7.0] "This is the longest match that I have ever watched so far. 80 minutes of non stop action and a hot crowd all the way through, not something that happens often. For stand out performances, I really enjoyed Speedball, Oku, Angel, Neon and of course Mistico. As exciting as it was, after 40 minutes when the eliminations started, I was already tired. Which makes it hard for me to rate it any higher. Still, a really good match that is also really long for my watching endurance."

[7.0] "I'll admit that this was my first Cibernetico style match so it really was a marathon for me. The action in the first 40 minutes is very sound and solid, but nothing really stood out to and came across more like a few exhibitions before the real thing started. The crowd is into this from bell to bell so that really helped with the energy. Overall, nothing really extraordinary with a very fun finishing stretch and deserved win that sent the crowd home happy."

[10.0] "It's a match that isn't for the faint-hearted, at 80 minutes. But if you put in the commitment to watch it, even at 1.5x or 2x speed, you'll be rewarded. Like many a great long match, it doesn't really shift into the top gears until the 40/45 minute mark, but at the same time, like many a great long match, the journey to top gear must not be missed at all, with an incredibly hot crowd for all 82 minutes, and even those low gears are full of spectacular wrestling that would get into many a talent's highlight reel. And once we get into those top gears? My oh my, what a match. Absolutely brilliant cibernetico, with, of course, the correct winner in the end."

[10.0] "I finally had the time to watch the CMLL vs. The World Cibernetico match from Grand Prix, and boy let me tell you TIME is one thing you need if you watch this match. Clocking in at over 80 minutes, this is less like a traditional match and more like a feature length film about 20 guys fighting it out to the bitter end. The length is daunting and probably could have been edited, my only real criticism of the match, however it's not the longest cibernetico match I've watched (the 2005 CHIKARA edition clocked in well over 100 minutes), so if you know about the match type you probably have an idea of what to expect. The CMLL team here is exemplary, a great mix of established top stars and newer additions to the scene. The World team consists of wrestlers from the US, Canada, the UK, Japan, Cuba, and I believe they billed TJP based on his Filipino heritage, and then you've got Beast Mortos (whom I can't help but still think of as Black Taurus) who is from Mexico but is still an outsider since he's not a member of CMLL. I like most members of that team so on paper I was excited for this, along with very strong reviews, especially for a lucha match (5 stars from Meltzer and 9.05 on Cagematch! ). The fight was just as I expected, tons of different pairings but cutting an impressive pace considering how much time they had to fill, having so many guys on hand was a great help for that. You got a lot of exchanges that lasted just a couple minutes before switching to the next, but consistently there was something entertaining happening all the way down the stretch. In fact the first elimination did not happen until nearly 40 minutes into the match, so there was tons of time for the full crew to show off all they could do in impressive fashion, and hey Beast Mortos actually got the first pin! He didn't win but he actually eliminated two members of the CMLL team before going out at the 66 minute mark. The final four was Speedball Bailey and TJP against Mistico and Titan, a pretty strong finale. Titan was taken out and TJP and Bailey, who worked very well with some heelish tendencies despite his usual babyface role, beat up Mistico for a minute in front of a crowd that was rooting hard for his comeback. Mistico caught TJP for an elimination and we got a really excellent final stretch between Speedball and Mistico before CMLL claimed the victory, the predicted outcome but the right one as Mistico continues to ride his renewed peak of popularity during what seems to potentially be his best in ring year ever. The length really is daunting but everything else about this match worked great in my eyes, I have it as my #33 match this year to date."

[9.0] "Excellent cibernetico, the lack of eliminations until the match had been going on for a while, it made the pinfalls feel like they could all be eliminations. Final two was a fun match up. Four and a half stars."

[7.0] "My first Cibernético Grand Prix match, and let's face it, it's a test of endurance. The action is good, but not spectacular. Here we have the classic story of the local hero versus the foreign villain, but knowing how much CMLL prioritizes tradition, it's fine by me, as long as the action is good and ends up working for the crowd. The main point here is the excessive length of the match. 82 minutes is a long time, especially considering that the first fall happens after 40 minutes. In other words, for 50% of the match, nothing significant happens, aside from showmanship and a few unmemorable spots. In the end, the biggest local star (Místico) defeats the foreign villains and gains more momentum for the clash against the biggest villain at the Aniversario show. I also highlight two very strange points (in my opinion): the controversial elimination of Michael Oku favoring the babyface team and Mike Bailey acting as a heel, which is also quite strange [***3/4]."

[7.0] "Not as good as expected, there was some decent action especially towarda the end but it was just too long and had way too many uninteresting segments in the match, sure it was fast and action packed but can't say much besides that"

[10.0] "I finally caught up with CMLL Grand Prix 2025, and it was truly memorable from start to finish. I really like the match stipulation with the Team Mexico vs Team the World concept. The beginning of the match really took the time to build the action, giving each wrestler time to shine and showcase themselves. Every elimination was important, the most memorable moment is Mistico's comeback in a 2vs1 against Mike Bailey and TJP, he is carried by the crowd, and wins the grail, the match was exceptional, thank you CMLL."

[9.0] "A special match. It's quite long and we have a lot of short exchanges which allows for a lot of diversity in the match. I really liked seeing Taurus last a long time and be put forward. Bailey, it was weird for me to see him as a heel."

[9.0] "Brilliant match, didn't feel like it dragged despite the incredibly long runtime. Not flawless, given a minor botch here and there, but nothing too serious to pull you out of the match. It really felt like everyone here got their chance to shine either through hitting a Finisher or getting a high-profile spot. Best spot of the match was Neón (I think) doing a double-springboard dive from the entrance ramp to the outside. This was a good match as an introduction to CMLL, which it was for me, as it shows off what their roster can do. Even the talent on Team Mexico to be eliminated earlier (such as Difunto) got some fun spots to show how talented they are. I do wish Michael Oku got more of a chance to shine. They managed to fit a lot of teasers for possible future matches here too. The Speedball/Místico ending has made me super eager for a full-length singles match between the two of them. This match does arguably have too many Mexican Destroyers, however. It's an amazing move, yes, but it is used probably 10 times here lmao."

[7.0] "****1/2 great match, it doesn't get to be a MOTY Contender because although it entertained me a lot and I thought it was great, the format of the match is too complex for them to do it perfectly, very good chemistry, there were botches and lack of communication and fluidity at times but then there was a lot of fluidity in sequences, great intensity, the duration is quite long, 1 hour 20 minutes practically, and the eliminations did not begin until almost 40 minutes of fighting, before these were quick encounters between all the participants in short but intense duels but unfortunately they did not lead to anything and they felt like they were training, some eliminations were kind of cold, but they are compensated with some great nearfalls very well done, I think that if they did it 7 vs 7 or 6 vs 6 that would have made it feel more like a multitudinous tag team fight with more joint spots it would have been better but this style of fighting is very complex, and even so it was great"

[9.0] "Probably the one I was enjoying the most, but I just cant fully get into a 80+ minutes match. Otherwise, one of the best editions of this tournament."

[10.0] "A movie's worth of breathless, rapid-fire spotsmanship with a crowd that will not die and reaches its vociferous peak for the climactic 2-on-1. If you aren't sure whether or not this is for you, just give the first 15 minutes a go because you're pretty much in for another hour or so of that kind of action. It's not the perfect match - how could it possibly be with so many spectacular exchanges crammed into its ludicrous runtime? But it is a genuine MOTYC ****3/4"

[8.0] "Too much of a good thing, frankly. Far too many bodies, way too long before any eliminations and an epic length for its own sake. That said, the talent level was very high and the action was almost nonstop, so it was still very fun. It just would have benefited from more focus and stricter editing."

[7.0] "Another year, Another Grand Prix Internacional Torneo Cibernetico. I feel like I've gotten to enjoy this a lot more than last years as I'm far more familiar with the field this time around. The opening feeling out process wasn't as clean as I remember last years but was never not engaging. The Beast Mortos establishes himself as a mega heel being the only luchador on the international team as he's aligned himself with AEW rather than his early work in CMLL but he's also a bit of turncoat here too. Robbie X again is one of the most impressive wrestler out the gate and he has a beautiful dance with the equally impressive Neon. Mistico and Speedball Mike Bailey also have an epic stand off to get their segment rolling. Difunto is a new wrestler to me and while he's not the cleanest as his most impressive moments are capped off with some crash landings, he definitely has a lot of personality and I especially like his deflection of TJP's red mist. Angel De Oro also is worth noting in this match as his no handed springboard rebound is something that needs to be seen to be believed. As the match progresses it does become apparent to me that some of the international wrestlers aren't gelling to the lucha style as well as others, especially when Michael Oku enters the ring. Oku is an insane talent but here he seems like he second guesses himself and is out of place a bit, eventually resulting in Atlantis Jr failing to catch him cleanly off a moonsault which I think the crowd blamed on Atlantis as he still seems to be the audiences bad books. Oku is also unceremoniously eliminated after it looks like he fails to kick out of a shoot count. Lio Rush also comes off as weirdly off beat which is especially strange considering his SoCal style, the fact that he's been wrestling in CMLL recently and that Action Andretti seems at home in this match. Still at least CRU gets a chance to do some kind of tag team offence which is more than can be said for United Empire stablemates TJP and Templario who get to exchange stable taunts before being interrupted by Rocky Romero and Templario is eliminated before the two get to meet again. Atlantis Jr has a great exchange with Mortos that gets relentlessly booed despite how it's one of the best pairings of the match. It was also cool to see Donovan Dijak pulling out various moonsaults as they're no longer a staple of his moveset these days. As the field starts to thin out the pairings get better and better. Neon/Speedball, TJP/Mascara, Ishimori/Volador, Speedball/Titan all sell themselves as matches I want to see. The match closes out with Mistico having to take on Speedball and TJP alone which allows for Speeball to dip into a more heelish character which I wasn't into. No matter the context, ripping at Mistico's mask is against his character at the moment but it kind of pays off when Mistico submits Speedball with the La Mistica for the win. Another fun 20 man tag that was a lot more balanced than last years. Lots of stand out performances with very few duds. Of course with a match of this size it's not all gonna be perfect but these things are always incredibly fun to sink your teeth into"

[9.0] "Absolutely fantastic stuff, just a ton of fun with a lot of wrestlers really showing out. Speedball had a top top tier performance here. Great match. 4.5/5.0"

[10.0] "Don't get me wrong, at 82 minutes this certainly needs some mental preparation to watch but honestly it was so fun that is MOTYC. So many pairs, so many incredible spots and the level of athleticism was out of this world entirely. It's incredible how these 22 lads never stopped a minute, truly monumental. *****1/2(5, 5*/11 out of ten)"

[10.0] "This is the third longest match I've seen, and yet, despite going 82 minutes, there wasn't a moment where I wasn't enthralled with the action in the ring. There were errors and imperfections (in fact, there were a lot, but that's partly because of how many things they tried), but the incredible athleticism and moves dwarfed everything except for perhaps the insane and unending investment and emotion from the crowd. That emotion climaxed perfectly too, with Mistico beating the odds to win the Grand Prix for Mexico in spectacular fashion. I think this beats out any cibernetico that has preceded it. ****3/4"

[9.0] "This was my first dip into CMLL and I thought it was an absolute riot. Nearly 90 minutes of great action in an elimination style tag match. If your bag is PWG style madness then you will likely love this. I love the way no one got eliminated for ages and everyone got to put on a class display. As my first CMLL show, even at a hefty price I was not disappointed."