Ken Shamrock

[7.0] "When he was in the wwf he could of been a top guy, he probably just was not their long enough any other era I think Shamrock would be, , His rivalry with The rock elevated The Rock into becoming a star, his mma background an over the top temper when he got in the zone, was funny but probably very scary if you came near him, he was one of the best in ring wrestlers of the attitude era as he made matches look legit, just wish he stayed around longer, but real fighting was more important to him as it should be if your a an athlete"

[7.0] "Shamrock should have been a bigger star. He had the in ring skills, look and the legit MMA background needed to become a huge star. He did not have the charisma and promo skills but those could have been covered up."

[8.0] "It's such a shame that Ken Shamrock didn't go farther in WWF, because this guy played his whole intense MMA guy turned wrestler gimmick to a tee. Natural charisma, believable, legit as they can get, a good wrestler, amazing ankle lock that looks like he can snap your foot off your leg, must I go on? Thankfully, TNA gave him a world title win, nice to see a promotion see's his value. If Vince saw what he had Infront of him, he could have been 2010s Brock Lesnar before he even wrestled in WWE in the early 2000s."

[7.0] "Probably the best MMA star turned wrestler(Rousey is close) he had great intensity and a cool move set, he was hit or miss in the ring, but a lot of that could be due to the fact that the attitude era had shorter matches. I think he had world champ potential, but sadly he left before he could get over the hump"

[7.0] "One of the better "outside guys" transitioning into pro wrestling. Dude had the look like he could kick the crap out of anyone and his crazy psycho rage worked well. He was only lacking in the promo department. If he stuck around longer, he could have had a nice little feud with Kurt Angle over who is the better wrestler/shoot fighter. Left the WWF too soon."

[8.0] "A natural intense charisma that sometimes had me rooting hard, other times laughing possibly harder. Notably HIDEOUSLY BAD promo skills, one of the top ten terrible mic guys - but sometimes it's so laughable that it works. Insanely great physique that must be praised. In the WWF, he was a perfect fit for the moment and bowed out on his own terms - commendable!"

[7.0] "In another universe Shamrock becomes the Brock Lesnar of the 90's. Not perhaps as good, but he was getting there. He had some great atheticism and obviously had the look that promoters will stab other people to get working for them. And Shamrock was a big draw! In Japan, anyway. He was one of the biggest stars in PWFG alongside one of the most respected grapplers in the business, beating virtually everyone and almost never eating a clean job. Left there and went to Pancrase, became a big star there before going on to UFC and likewise. WWE was a last-resort and not something he was particularly interested in following though with, but I thought he did fine with what he had, even if he was mostly undercard fodder and because of the way matches were done at the time, the guy couldn't really adapt proper. He always felt a bit stiff in the ring, a bit clunky, and it was obvious this wasn't his main passion, because as soon as MMA started getting hot again he was out of the door. Never great in the ring as a result, and I felt like a guy with as much as he had could've been a lot bigger overall. The main issue was that, well, Shamrock couldn't talk to save his life. He wasn't a good promo at all, and you can quickly see how that effects his image as a badass when he can't even cut a basic 1/2 promo without a lot of awkwardness. While I'm amazed by the shoot-style stuff I've seen out of him, he never really hit those peaks again or could translate his work into a more general style like a Dan Severn or whatnot. Not bad, but never got truly great."

[8.0] "Shamrock war ein absolutes Beast und wäre auch bei der WWF ein glaubhafter Main Eventer gewesen. Aufgrund seiner begrenzten Promofähigkeiten schaffte er es da nie ganz hin. Ist für mich aber ein unterschätzter Teil der Attitude Era. Seine Matches waren teilweise richtig gut und seine Zeit in der WWF fand ich insgesamt durchaus sehr ansprechend."

[6.0] "When he initially came into WWF, he was absolute money. He just looked like he would murder anyone who stood in front of him, and of course he could have for real. The introduction match against Vader was great (props to Vader) but the crowd didn't get and that seemed to sour Vince on him pretty quick and his potential was never realised in WWF and it wasn't really his fault. He had a great run in Japan before moving on to Pancrase where he was allowed to really showcase his style."

[10.0] "In my opinion, he was the original trailblazer for guys who started in wrestling, left it to conquer another sport (UFC/Pancrase), and then came back an even bigger star because 98% of the people never knew he wrestled before. They just thought he was a MMA superfight champion who came in, picked wrestling up quickly, and became one of the most recognized faces of the attitude era. Anyway, Ken was my exposure to the UFC, at one time he really was the world's most dangerous man -- there was no gimmick about it, and I don't think WWF used him to his full potential honestly. He was solid in the ring (especially if you consider most were under the mindset that he never wrestled before 1997), he was a consistent part of the storylines for the whole two years he was there, and yeah to my point whileago I thought he was underutilized in WWF. Felt like he could have had a run with Austin and even been WWF champion if they let allowed it."

[9.0] "A real life badass, legit shooter who back in his prime could beat up anyone, who wasn? t wearing pajamas, to choke him with. Yes, he was on vitamins, but everyone from Jericho, Bret Hart, Austin, plus absolutely everybody in the 80s (except Hulk Hogan, of course? he never took anything, I mean he said it himself! ) was on them too at one point or another, so what. He was not the most natural talker, but a very intense individual. It? s a shame that his stint in WWF changed his actual fighting style, as he stopped shooting for takedowns in his real fights, because of the injuries and tried to become a stand up fighter/striker, which didn? t work for him and his mma career took a turn for worse. He looked like a million bucks, he could legitimately beat you up, a real tough guy."

[7.0] "I struggle to rate this shooter/fighter/wrestler over his long career. How do we take into account his very green 'Vince Torelli' run? Looking at his rookie UWF work, how do we assess it? Do I weigh more heavily his shockingly good PWFG run, where Masa Funaki, Minoru Suzuki and Kenny Wanye ran shop and looked miles ahead of everyone else in that organization? Do we talk about the handful of worked matches he had in the mostly legit shoot Pancrase? Or do we talk about his overachieving WWE run where he was one of the hardest working men in the ring -- beloved by wrestlers who are now legends for the WWE like The Rock, Mankind and The Undertaker? He even had huge influence over them, in introducing The Undertaker to MMA, for better or worse. I just wish he took less unprotected chair shots FFS."

[6.0] "Shamrock is kind of funny because he was a real-life badass, but as a wrestler he was mostly ok. His moveset was pretty shallow and he had to dial back his striking a lot. His character work wasn't anything to write home about but he was fine. A solid midcarder for many years that sometimes masqueraded as a main event guy."

[7.0] "While his matches got to be pretty repetitive after a while given his shallow moveset, he executed what he knew really well and was surprisingly good on the mic. IMO he was never a fit for the uppercard matches, but he kept the middlecard steady and interesting for a couple years."

[4.0] "This rating is completely based on his latest run. He was never a great wrestler but he was at least good but not anymore."

[9.0] "This man is a steroided up psychopath and I love him. Ken Shamrock might've not had the deepest moveset but he had a lot of entertaining matches under his belt and a great character of just being violent as humanly possible."

[5.0] "He had the look, and he was a legit badass, his matches were nothing special though, and his promo and character work were pretty bad"

[7.0] "Another wrestler from the Attitude Era that was enjoyable to watch he was tough, dangerous and awesome to look at but never had the ? Vince Push? to hit the main event level (or at least stay there) but I loved Ken! Let? s not talk about the sister(real life) girlfriend angle!"

[8.0] "Coming from UFC back when that promotion was still a bit of a myth with how dangerous it was, Ken Shamrock had a great thing going for him right out of the gate. I remember seeing him on the ABC show where they dubbed him the "most dangerous man in America" and WWE certainly loved to throw around that moniker willingly. His intensity at the time was unmatched & being one of the first guys to have the shoot-fighter gimmick worked well. He ultimately never ascended to main event level, but he was consistently a great upper midcarder with well rounded skills. The chairshot he took in the face from Rock is tattooed in my brain."

[9.0] "One of the best wrestlers during the 1990s. He contributed a fair amount to the shoot-style scene in PWFG and Pancrase, and later showed his worth in MMA. His work in the WWF only confirmed his all-around ability as a wrestler and entertainer."

[10.0] "Very Innovative when he came to professional wrestling, Ken Shamrock was definitely underrated, he had great matches with The Rock, and his intensity has yet to be matched."

[10.0] "Underrated wrestler. Great at every and is a natural born fighter in real life. His submission moves were great. Check out his early years in Japan. He was an icon in the Attitude era. Too bad he did not stay that long with the company. Great that he was Intercontinental champion and feuded with the Rock and Shawn Michaels. He should have been WWE Champion. First ever TNA champion!"

[8.0] "Had an aura and energy around him that allowed him to remain a serious threat to anyone on the roster for the duration of his WWE run. Between the runs with the IC and Tag titles and his King of the Ring victory Shamrock was a decorated performer in the Attitude Era and was clearly ahead of the times when you look at other UFC/MMA figures like Brock Lesnar, Ronda Rousey and Matt Riddle. He's been unfairly erased from WWE's history in my opinion and I think of a Hall of Fame induction could be justified. In addition to his UFC and WWE success, he had a brief run as the NWA World's Champion in the early days of Impact Wrestling. He certainly left his mark on the sport and should be remembered fondly."

[6.0] "Kein ausgezeichneter Wrestler, aber für das was er war, war er okay. Er wurde glücklicherweise auch nie groß in den Main Event gepusht, wo er verloren gewesen wäre, war in der Midcard aber gut aufgehoben."

[6.0] "As an MMA fighter, Shamrock was great for his time. But as a pro wrestler, Shamrock was limited, and he needed the kind of protective booking that the WWF simply didn't have the willingness or ability to provide."

[7.0] "A legendary MMA fighter. however, as a wrestler I don't feel that he's had that many standout performances. He's certainly not on the level of a Minoru Suzuki or even a Kazushi Sakuraba. Despite this, he is a decent worker who had a hard hitting style and good submission based offense and he played the "MMA badass" role well"

[5.0] "Für mich einfach nur ein Schreihals, der richtig einen auf Show gemacht hat, um von seinen wrestlerischen Defiziten abzulenken. Als Heel auf jeden Fall authentischer, als als Face."

[8.0] "Lebte viel von seiner unglaublichen Intensität im Ring, denn Shamrock mangelte es gewaltig an seinen Mic-Skills. Aufgrund seiner herausragenden Ausstrahlung habe ich ihn aber trotzdem immer gerne gesehen. Quasi der Vorläufer des heutigen Brock Lesnar."

[10.0] "A legit badass that was very underrated, Shamrock should have gotten a longer run with the IC title. Also would have been a great fit for the WWF title in late 97."

[8.0] "Gute Intensität. Hatte im Ring richtig was drauf und konnte herrlich ausrasten. Im Prinzip is er ja eigentlich immer ausgerastet :-) Komisch das da nicht mehr draus wurde. Hat mich eigentlich immer überzeugt. Vielleicht hat ihm, verglichen mit den Größen seiner Zeit, einfach der It-Faktor etwas gefehlt."

[6.0] "I'm giving him a 6 based on his lack of charisma or mic skills. fun to watch in the ring, but just horrible on the mic. Would rather watch him fight in MMA to be honest."

[7.0] "Ken Shamrock gehörte früher zu meinen Lieblingswrestlern und definierte praktisch den Begriff Ruthless Aggression. Im Ring ist er gut (8/10), am Mic nicht gut (3/10), großes Charisma (8/10) und eine krasse Ausstrahlung als Most Dangerous Man on the Planet (10/10). Insgesamt kommt Ken Shamrock bei mir auf 7, 25 von 10 Punkten - sehr solide."

[8.0] "Ich habe weder vor noch während der Attitude-Ära (danach hab ich nicht mehr geguckt) einen Mann gesehen der trotz schwacher Entertainer-Qualitäten so erfolgreich werden konnte. Zu Recht! Ken Shamrock war ein Typ der durch seinen UFC-Hintergrund, seine Ausstrahlung und seine Kämpfer-Attitude auch ohne große Show und viel Gequatsche mehr Power und Autorität versprühte als viele andere. In seiner Rolle war er absolut authentisch. Man nahm ihm einfach ab, dass er einen Griff beherrscht der selbst gefürchtete Finishing Holds wie den Sharpshooter oder die Mandible Claw in Punkto Härte noch übertrifft. Auch wie er selbst einen Grizzly wie Vader bei seinem Debüt richtig vermöbeln und zur Aufgabe zwingen konnte wirkte total glaubwürdig. Weil Shamrock wie ein klassischer Soldat wirkte: stark, furchtlos, ernst, im Zweikampf erfahren und kompromisslos. Auch sein Wrestling-Stil konnte sich sehen lassen. Shamrock war ein guter Techniker der seinen Gegner mit der tödlichen Präzision seines Spin Kicks jederzeit überraschen konnte, zudem war er auch ein Kraftpaket und konnte selbst Schwergewichte noch mit seinem Belly-to-Belly-Suplex auf die Matte schicken. Wenn er mal richtig ausrastete gab es eh keinen der es mit ihm beim Brawl aufnehmen konnte. Lediglich seine begrenzten Qualitäten am Mic und als Entertainer verhinderten eine größere Karriere. Da Shamrock - neben Stone Cold Steve Austin - mein absoluter Favorit während der Attitude-Ära war vergebe ich einfach mal einen Extra-Punkt."

[6.0] "Ken Shamrock zu bewerten fällt nicht leicht. Auf der einen Seite bringt er alle körperlichen und technischen Voraussetzungen für eine erfolgreiche Karriere mit. Auf der anderen spielt er seine Stärken viel zu selten aus. Vielmehr blieb er fast seine gesamte Karriere über auf einem Level und entwickelte sich kaum. Trotz seines Backgrounds konnte er seine Technik nicht nutzen, um wirklich gute Matches zu liefern. Jedes Mal, wenn er eine Chance auf einen Durchbruch hatte, scheiterte er kläglich. Seine Intensität gefiel mir gut, doch diese hätte er häufiger vorteilhaft einsetzen müssen. Am Mikrofon oft überfordert, was ebenfalls ein Grund für seinen fehlenden dauerhaften Status als Main Eventer ist."

[10.0] "One of my favorites. His gimmick, well was no gimmick. He was literally the best MMA fighter in the world at the time he came to the WWWF. He was a tremendous mat wrestler with an outstanding physique. His interviews were not exceptionally strong, but that was consistent with his real life MMA personna. He had a nice run with both the intercontinental and tag titles concurrently. Injuries and a burning desire to return to MMA ended what should have been a Hall of Fame career. Still time for a comeback?"

[7.0] "Mr. Intensity wandelte immer zwischen echter Glaubwürdigkeit und charismafreier Eintönigkeit bis hin zur gnadenlosen Langeweile. Der Kerl war auch im Wrestling-Ring ein begnadetes Talent; zu einer großen Karriere sollte es wegen seiner Liebe zum Octagon aber auch seinen fehlenden Entertainment-Fähigkeiten schlicht nicht reichen."

[8.0] "Für mich der Brock Lesnar der Attitude Era! Klar war er nicht so ein guter Wrestler, aber er war jemand wo du sagts:Mit dem lege ich mich besser nicht an. Unglaubliche Ausstrahlung!"

[6.0] "Der erster Ultimate Fighter, der es in der WWE versucht hat und dabei auch nicht schlecht gewesen ist. Hat etwas verstrahlt und verkauft. Hatte den einen oder anderen Moment in der WWE."

[10.0] "An absolute beast in the ring. Sure, he wasn't much on talking, but with skills like his, he didn't need to be."

[7.0] "He was certainly entertaining and a good athlete, but lacking in mic skills. He played the killer badass role well."

[5.0] "War für mich nie ein richtiger Wrestler, weswegen es mir schwer viel seine Aktionen ernst zu nehmen. Spielte seine Rollen aber immer gut."

[10.0] "Honestly, Shamrock is and was one of the best WWF superstars. He was powerful, agile and a great damn wrestler. While he didn't have the best mic skills, it did not matter, but with and without submission wrestling he can get it done in the ring."

[5.0] "Als wirklichen Wrestler kann man Shamrock nicht betrachten, dafür waren seine Aktionen im Ring zu unstimmig, sein Mic-Work quasi nicht vorhanden. Aber er war ein physische Gefahr, die Dominanz ausstrahlte und war zudem ein nicht unwichtiger Faktor im legendären Match Austin/Bret. Als Attraktion im Midcard-Bereich also bestens aufgehoben gewesen und hat nach meiner Beurteilung seinen Job immer ordentlich gemacht. Mehr aber auch nicht."

[10.0] "Ken Shamrock is definitely one of my favorite superstars of all time! He was one of my favorite wrestlers to watch back in the Attitude Era! It didn't matter if he was a face or a heel, I still loved Ken Shamrock! This is honestly the one guy who I don't understand why WWE didn't put the world title on him because Ken had it all basically. He had the look, he had the charisma, he was great in the ring, he was great on the mic, he definitely had one hell of a mean streak, this guy was definitely world champion material and the fact that WWE didn't put the world title on Ken is just beyond me. He would've been a huge draw in the WWE with the world title around his waist. I mean I'm definitely glad they put other titles on him like the intercontinental and tag team titles but he deserved a hell of a lot more than that and it's just very unfortunate that he never had the world title around the waist."

[6.0] "Mit seinem UFC-Gimmick in der WWE ein echter Killer. Dabei hat sein Push aber seine tatsächlichen Fähigkeiten deutlich überstrahlt. Sein Mic-Work hat mich zudem nie vom Hocker gerissen."

[1.0] "Ich hab nie verstanden was er in der WWE zu suchen hatte (und schon gar nicht warum er dort Erfolge verbuchen durfte). Eine Bewertung seiner MMA Karriere hat hier nichts zu suchen. Edit: Er bekommt einen "Rob Terry ist noch schlechter" Bonuspunkt."

[7.0] "Als Wrestler fand ich ihn ganz okay. Irgendwie hatte er gewisse eine Ausstrahlung und auch eine gute Portion Charisma gehabt. Passte gut in die Attitude-Ära."

[6.0] "Solider Wrestler, der immer öfters mal eine gute Show ablieferte."

[7.0] "Shamrock war durchaus in Ordnung, hatte aber sehr komische Phasen. Für TNAW am Anfang wohl wichtig, da er bekannt war, 7 Punkte."

[7.0] "Ein durchschnittlicher bis solider Worker mit einem beeindruckendem Körperbau."

[9.0] "9 Punkte hat er sich schon verdient! Hatte technisch einiges drauf, sein Gimmick hat gut zu ihm gepasst und das hat er auch gut ausgelebt! Mir war immer unklar wie ein Mann mit solchen Potential dann doch so runtergehalten wurde von der WWE. Zumindest ein Run als World Champion wäre gerechtfertigt gewesen!"

[8.0] "Weniger das wrestlerische Können als vielmehr Shamrocks sehr definierter und mitreißender Charakter haben mich Ende der 90er in der WWF fasziniert. Er hätte in der Liga noch einiges erreichen können, wenn er nicht lieber wieder UFC-Kämpfe bestritten hätte, da er das Charisma, die Athletik und auch die Intensität dafür hatte."

[7.0] "Dieser Mann ist sicherlich gefährlich. Doch hier mangelte es nur etwas an dem Charisma. Ist sicher in seiner MMA Karriere besser aufgehoben."

[8.0] "Einer meiner Lieblinge der Attitude-Ära. Die Psychonummer, die er in der WWE abgezogen hat, war echt überzeugend, noch dazu hatte er schönes Matwrestling drauf. Aus seinem Push zu Anfang wurde dann am Ende nicht mehr viel, zumal er auch ein paar echte Einschlafbegegnungen gezeigt hat. Als Abtrünniger der Corporation dann nochmal ein Kracher. Insgesamt auf jeden Fall einer meiner Alltime-Favs in Sachen Gimmick."

[7.0] "In der UFC natürlich unanfechtbar legendär, aber auch als Wrestler durchaus zu gebrauchen. Shamrock zeigte gegen Owen Hart und The Rock gute Matches und konnte auch bei TNA als Champion punkten."

[7.0] "In der Corporation war er einfach nur DER Bringer, vorher hat er gesuckt. Und die Entrance war auch immer super, schade dass er das Wrestling früh verlassen hat."

[0.0] "Ich bitte euch als Wrestler war der eine Qual. Ich meine dass einzige was er konnte war der Belly to Belly Suplex und der war immer sehr schlecht ausgeführt. Naja ich mag ihn auch nicht also tiefste Note! Was er bei UFC getan hat weiss ich nicht gehört auch gar nicht in die Bewertung!"

[7.0] "Seine Ringtechnik hat mich immer sehr beeindruckt und seine Matches waren kurzweilig, allerdings war sein Mic-Work eher zum Verschweigen und heute vermisse ich ihn auch nicht wirklich."

[8.0] "Hat mir im WWE Ring gut gefallen. Matches waren ansprechend, Charisma war vorhanden und er hat die nötige Verbissenheit mitgebracht."

[8.0] "Sehr guter, lengendärer Shootfighter. Außerdem hat er in die Attitude Ära hervorragen rein gepasst, mit seiner Intensität und Glaubwürdigkeit."

[10.0] "Ich kann Shamrock nur auf Grund seiner WWE-Zeit bewerten und da hab ich ihn geliebt. Man kann über zu wenig Charisma debattieren wie man will, aber er hatte eines, was nicht viele WWE-Stars je hatten: Glaubwürdigkeit. Wer hatte nicht Angst, dass Shamrock seinem Gegner mit dem Ankle Lock den Fuss abreisst? Seine Matches waren grösstenteils auch sehr sehenswert."

[8.0] "Der wohl legendärste Ultimate Fighter der Geschichte! Ein knallharter Kerl mit vielen Submission-Moves und einer unglaublichen Intensität!"

[8.0] "Hab ihn zum 1. Mal in der Attitude-Ära gesehen. Kam gut rüber! Inzwischen muss ich noch gelegentlich an ihn denken - und zwar dann, wenn ich einen Scott Steiner mit seinen Slams und Suplexes sehe, wenn ich einen Batista bei seiner Art, die Ringtreppe hochzusteigen zuschaue und damals auch noch bei Kurt Angle bei seinem Ang(k)lelock... 8 Punkte."

[8.0] "Einer meiner damaligen Lieblinge! Mochte ihn sehr, sein Ankle Lock war fies und auch seine weiteren Submissions waren grandios. In guter Erinnerung wird mir ewig das Zwangsjackenmatch gegen HHH bleiben, wo er gefesselt Trips ne sauber ausgeführte Hurrancanrana verpasste und ihn mit nem Leg Neck Lock auschokte. Zudem genialer, technischer Wrestler mit Potential^^"

[8.0] "Ein sehr guter Submission Wrestler ... eben der "World's Most Dangerous Man"!"

[6.0] "Guter, harter Mann der sich wenigstens halbwegs Mühe gab den Spagat zum Wrestling zu schaffen und damit hat er das beste aus sich gemacht."

[8.0] "In der WWF richtig unterhaltsam. Selbiges gilt auch für seine vorherige UFC Zeit. Seine letzten Auftritte bei TNA und UFC waren aber nicht so berauschend. Trotzdem langt es zu einer 2."

[6.0] "Bewertet man hier den Wrestler, oder den Shootfighter? Als Shottfighter eine glatte 10 - es geht hier aber um Wrestling und da war er nicht so der Bringer."